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Comment from: Francois [Visitor] Email · http://fplanque.com/
wow... so much anger... makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside for having spent days & nights implementing features that are actually plain user requests and not anything I ever wanted myself (wysiwyg...), not to mention the ability to turn the footer links off, requested by you Ed, and implemented since 3.0. But all you do is still complain and point out all the other things you can't turn off yet because there's only so many developers with only so much time on their hands. Thank you for the constructive feedback.
04/10/09 @ 15:03
Comment from: EdB [Member] Email
Um... er... not anger. Disgust is more like it. 310 is simply not something someone should go use. Period. Doesn't matter how much effort went into it because it wasn't enough.

all I do is complain? Oh that's what all that is. Complaints ... right?

I didn't request turning off footer spam. I demanded it and you refused. (That's why I stopped playing in your dev team email group.) On your forums I actually did request plugin hooks after reading your post about how you would implement them. Not "you would think about it". You simply would.
We shall provide all needed hooks for you to develop your plugins seemlessly.

So I requested hooks that I feel need to be there and gave real world examples and the way I would code it up. Didn't happen though. In fact none of the hooks asked for in your forums made it to the core. Only one new hook that wasn't requested anywhere publicly available - the toolbar hook.

Whatever. Look all feedback is constructive. Depends on how you take it I guess.
04/11/09 @ 22:32
Comment from: Francois [Visitor] · http://fplanque.com/
Ok we failed to make all your personal "demands" a priority. Sorry!!! :/

Again, you can turn off the footer links in the admin since version 3.0.0. Also, is there a point in explaining that you should poke the plugin people about your plugin hooks?
04/13/09 @ 07:30
Comment from: EdB [Member] Email
An option to turn off spam is not the same as not having spam. You're betting most people won't find it right? Just like a spammer would: if it sticks then great, but if not no loss.

On the plugin hooks issue, I responded to your post on your forums about hooks in your software. Was that a mistake? Should I have somehow known that wasn't the right thing to do? Who are the plugin people then?

One of the strengths and weaknesses of b2evolution is that noise from the peanut gallery of users RARELY makes a dent in future development. That's good thing because the core isn't swaying in the breeze. That's a bad thing because good ideas and suggestions are ignored along with the "I want a pony" stuff.

Look I don't want to get into a tit-for-tat here cuz that's boring. Obviously we completely disagree on whether or not footer spam belongs in an open source application or not. I say it doesn't, you say it does. Okay no problem, but as long as it's there I'll make sure it *never* has a chance to show up on my installations. All things considered, b2evolution is an awesome platform that simply needs to be hacked into shape from time to time. To me that means custom hooks to do reasonably simple things, adding hooks the lack of which is clearly a bug, and wiping out spam.

I just noticed I had half a plugin still hooked in here. Gonna have to fix that! I don't usually tinker up a plugin on a live installation but since the next one was going to work with commenter's websites it needed real commenters.
04/13/09 @ 09:42

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